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Tell your friends about us!what i don't like in the GR
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1. no problem if the camera is larger. the ricoh GRD IV is also larger than the ricoh GRD III.
2. with the metal cap i can sit on the camera, i can push the camera as strong as i want and everything is always ok in my pants. if you don't want to buy the metal cap you can also not buy it but if they don't sell the cap you can't buy it.
2. with the metal cap i can sit on the camera, i can push the camera as strong as i want and everything is always ok in my pants. if you don't want to buy the metal cap you can also not buy it but if they don't sell the cap you can't buy it.
1. In general,I would say size of the gr is probably one of its strongest points. Also big problem if you really want to put in your pants as you described in #2.
2. I see no problem in them giving you an optional cap, but I would try to be gentler with my cameras. Not sure if sitting on cameras and pushing them as stong as you want is good practice.
2. I see no problem in them giving you an optional cap, but I would try to be gentler with my cameras. Not sure if sitting on cameras and pushing them as stong as you want is good practice.
While the GRD IV is slightly bigger than GRD III, the sensor is still the same. New GR, on the other hand, has a much bigger sensor and maybe they have to sacrifice the stabilization in order to keep it at its current dimension.
I also see no point in the cap as I will like to whip it out, switch on and shoot immediately, rather than fumbling with the cap.
Just tried out a pre-production unit over the weekend, the AF is not very stable and either focus instantly or hunts for a long time (2~3 secs) against same low-contrast subject.
I also see no point in the cap as I will like to whip it out, switch on and shoot immediately, rather than fumbling with the cap.
Just tried out a pre-production unit over the weekend, the AF is not very stable and either focus instantly or hunts for a long time (2~3 secs) against same low-contrast subject.
riccadonna
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Sergioz, I second you the one on the cap. That was the reason I hesitated to get GDRIV. On my GXR 28 I screw a filter on and I`m safe. Still I use a cap on it when throwing it in the bag or just to avoid sticky fingerprints covering the filter. You need a cap being a bit rowdy shooter. Of course there`s always a solution. For GDRIV the best one was a dedicated cap of white edition that has contacts that prevent powering camera when in pocket. I wonder if GR has this solution. Of course you must unscrew the accessory ring off first. Well, it looks like a simple solution will be a plastic cap covering the whole lens protrusion. Another ommision is the lack of possibility of screwing the filter on the retracting barrel ( Coolpix A doesn`t have either.) One of my friends just glued a thin coated filter glass on the barrel of his , in this case Samsung. I shoot with unprotected glass only in controlled environment and special situations ( dark scenes with lot of light sources causing the reflection in , even multicoated, filters. Otherwise I`m a bit uneasy with sand and that kind of trash flying around, not talking of uncontrolled people. Well, should I get GR, I`ll most definitely buy filter adopter to be used on the beach and like as it covers the whole moving works of lens barrel. We`ll see.
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With my GRD4 I tried the tube & filter solution (GH-2) but went away from it in the end as it made the camera less pocketable so I needed a small bag - and so I carried it less. I then bought the GC4 'ever ready' case and have found this really handy. It would be good to see an updated version for the GR - without space for the GV2 would be OK for me as I'm coming around to the idea that it is not really that useful.
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sergiozh":185pmh6b said:1. no stabilisation
2. no optional metal lens cap like this of the ricoh GRD IV
why ???
Why do you insist on having IS? Also, the metal cap was a inelegant solution when the cap was off the camera... since it made the camera look like somethin was missing IMO.
Perhaps look into a different camera if these two things are truly a deal breaker for you.
Hi sergiozh -
In the last few years of my use of my K1000 something happened to the lens cap, so I made myself a "custom" one from the lid of a jam jar. Fitted very snugly.
I keep my PX in a sock that I sewed up a bit.
When I get the GR, I'll probably improvise a covering/case for it....
In the last few years of my use of my K1000 something happened to the lens cap, so I made myself a "custom" one from the lid of a jam jar. Fitted very snugly.
I keep my PX in a sock that I sewed up a bit.
When I get the GR, I'll probably improvise a covering/case for it....
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for me is very important to have stabilisation, because it allows me to have low iso when the subjekt does not move. i like low iso and i hate high iso with every camera.
i own a ricoh grd IV and i don't think i will buy the gr. not now anyway.
maybe in 2-3 years ricoh will produce the same camera with stabilisation as ricoh did with the grd III and the grd IV.
or maybe ricoh will produce a fullframe compact camera (the sony rx1 is also very interesting for me but also without stabilisation :? )
i agree that the grd IV without metal cap is not really beautiful but the functionality of the camera with the cap is very important to me.
what i don't like in the grd IV is the color of the sky which is often not natural as with many camera with small sensor. otherwise the grd IV is perfect for me.
for me is very important to have stabilisation, because it allows me to have low iso when the subjekt does not move. i like low iso and i hate high iso with every camera.
i own a ricoh grd IV and i don't think i will buy the gr. not now anyway.
maybe in 2-3 years ricoh will produce the same camera with stabilisation as ricoh did with the grd III and the grd IV.
or maybe ricoh will produce a fullframe compact camera (the sony rx1 is also very interesting for me but also without stabilisation :? )
i agree that the grd IV without metal cap is not really beautiful but the functionality of the camera with the cap is very important to me.
what i don't like in the grd IV is the color of the sky which is often not natural as with many camera with small sensor. otherwise the grd IV is perfect for me.
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Im a big fan of the cap on my IV - allows me to throw the camera in my work bag with other things (have had an unfortunate experience with only the thin leaf covers on another camera in the past), and also, perhaps even more so, was safe in my pocket with the power on disable function - its not hard to bump the power and I would hate to stuff the lens just moving around with it in the pocket!
Im not in the market for the GR yet, simply because I need to wear out my IV first...
Im not in the market for the GR yet, simply because I need to wear out my IV first...
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The IS is nice to have, but it is far less a crucial element on a wide angle lens than on a telephone one. Especially with very nice high iso performance, you can easily live without IS on GR.
IMHO, the cap is only useful for transport of your camera in a long journey, if you put the camera in your bag with many other stuff. I will be afraid that the auto lens cap, which seems not very tough, is pressed against something, making the lens front scratched. But using a small camera pouch is a nice solution.
IMHO, the cap is only useful for transport of your camera in a long journey, if you put the camera in your bag with many other stuff. I will be afraid that the auto lens cap, which seems not very tough, is pressed against something, making the lens front scratched. But using a small camera pouch is a nice solution.
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I just saw a video on a local photographic site, showing various parts of the OM-D camera. The most interesting part of the video is a section describing OM-D IS system. It shows how massive the OM-D IS really is! And it's for 4/3 sensor while the GR uses larger APSC. If you are interested, the video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JYYcnSaSAoo#t=174s
Sorry, it's in Czech. But I think the video is a great example why the GR lacks of IS. Simply, it would be physically impossible to cram an effective IS system to GR-sized body. Of course, it may be possible to use "smaller" IS. But I doubt it would be the same effective?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JYYcnSaSAoo#t=174s
Sorry, it's in Czech. But I think the video is a great example why the GR lacks of IS. Simply, it would be physically impossible to cram an effective IS system to GR-sized body. Of course, it may be possible to use "smaller" IS. But I doubt it would be the same effective?
odklizec
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Maybe, but how many Sony (replace with any other brand) cameras with APSC/FF sensor and IS are the GR sized? Not even the Sony NEX, which is noticeably larger than GR, is equipped with the in-body IS.
I understand your wish for the IS. But on the other hand, we need to be reasonable. If we want to keep the GR small and discreet, effective IS system is out of question. In fact, IS is not that much required/reasonable for wide lenses. I mean, of course it's nice to have feature. But 28mm is perfectly handholdable at 1/20-1/30. It's not motion blur but subject's motion that destroys photos at these slow shutter speeds.
I understand your wish for the IS. But on the other hand, we need to be reasonable. If we want to keep the GR small and discreet, effective IS system is out of question. In fact, IS is not that much required/reasonable for wide lenses. I mean, of course it's nice to have feature. But 28mm is perfectly handholdable at 1/20-1/30. It's not motion blur but subject's motion that destroys photos at these slow shutter speeds.