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The Ricoh Kool Aid Acid Test

ZDP-189

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This forum has all kinds of members, from the idly curious or the new user looking for information on his purchase, to full on evangelical ministers of the church of Ricoh. I came in as the former and I must have been susceptible because of my collecting compact film cameras, because I've gotten really sucked in.

It's not so apparent a process at first, but one day you look back and realise you've become known amongst your friends as 'the Ricoh Guy'. I have a friend who is a bit of a Leicaphile and the obession was becoming a consuming passion so I wrote the passage below which likened the Leica fraternity to various concentratons of tainted Kool Aid, so that he could keep track of his level of indoctrination:

Tap Water. You may respect the brand, but you buy on spec,price point and independent reviews. In other words, you're a rational, unbiased shopper.

Oh Yeah! The Kool Aid is fresh and chilled. You are into a brand. You bought into the system and it'll be hard to switch. You have the flash and an expensive lens or two. You recommend the brand to friends because you believe in your decision and hope they will beat the competition.

Did somebody adulterate the Kool Aid? My lips have gone numb. You have an active membership of a forum or club dedicated to your favourite brand. You buy into the cult status and are willing to pay over the odds for an obscure camera you probably won't use to further your collection or standing. You buy long discontinued lenses or digital cameras because the photos had a different look. You know exactly what specs changed between models and what year they came out.

Momma, I can't feel my legs. It's not a brand or a system, it's a marque You take a superior lens off a body and replace it with a shoddy lens of your favourite brand because you wouldn't want to be seen with a lesser marque. You wage holy wars over a misunderstood specification.

Full on trippin'. You would never actually use your camera. When a customer €200,000 for a camera and lens and has the balls to look through the lens, you usher him from the store and tell everyone you meet for years to come that ":He isn't yet at the right level". Everybody knows everybody else and who has what and hates each other for it. Your cameras are important they are prototypes or one offs made for a well known pro photog who took photos with the camera that won an award. You borrowed money from a family member because the syndicate couldn't cover an acquisition.

Well, I'm not yet at the deepest level, but I am starting to see the world through a rose-filtered GR lens. Today, I went to pick up my GR21 that I lent to a friend but was beginning to miss. On the way back to the car, I stopped in to check out the current prices of a GRII. It was unbelievable. There were GRII's in every window. One store had three of them, a GX100, GX200, a GXR and a bunch of R's and CX's. Every other camera was a Ricoh. It was like I was dreaming. I went in and took my pick of the pack, a very early model VP15100012 and while I was testing it, got chatting with the proprietor about the differences between the models and why Hong Kong was awash with GRDII's. I reached for my GRD but couldn't find it. Ricoh's are very similar and I pulled out a R1, then a R1E (both of which I was carrying to finish the film), then the GR21 then the GRD. Spectators had gathered to see the madman. Counting the GRDII that I got in a full boxed set for $145, I have 5 Ricoh's on me, plus at least another three at home. Even my wife, who's thankfully not to observant and can't tell a GR21 from a GX100 has noticed that there are more than a couple variants sitting about the house.

So come on then, how deep down the rabbit hole have you fallen? What's your story?
 
I wanted a GR III but went for the gx200 as we just had my wee boy, and I wanted the zoom end to take portrates of him. love it and find the view finder real good too. Cant afford to buy any more though :( would love a GXR the quality looks amazing
 
I must be on the opposite pole of this syndrome. Started with a gx100, then bought a gx200 and then a grd1. It is too much for me. It is spectacular what gx200 can do, I would love to have a grd3 in hand..... but I miss the "simplicity" of the gx100 (even holding my breath for RAW files). I think I will sell gx200, get some money and time back and do more photos instead of wondering through menus. (grd1 stays).
 
I have a GRD III and it goes on every Foto Safari with me, even if just accompanying a DP2, GF1 or others.
I still keep my GRD II and can't part with it, mainly because - "just in case the GRD III breaks" I have a spare Ricoh.
I have missed out on numerous GRD I's on eBay by a few bucks.
I regret missing out on the GR1 fad in the 1990s. I have a saved search in eBay for GRs and consider one every now and then.

I used to own a Leica MP & 50mm cron. Sold em, kept the Ricoh!

I think - My lips have gone numb :lol:

Did I pass or fail? :D :oops:

PS: I sometimes sit on the couch, just fiddling with the GRD, going through menus and tweaking settings.
PPS: I actively monitor the FW updates page, and get excited when a new one is released.
 
Hehehe, I think you have nailed very well some of us here on this forum. At least I can identify myself with some of the sintomes...

I proudly assume to be the owner of a camera with that "what brand is that???". It's the same everyday I meet some people that see's me for the very first time with the Ricoh on my hands. Many students just think I must be crazy, because I show them my little strange camera everytime they try to "sell" me their big "canons"...

People get atracted by the GX200 with the accessories, as well by the R3 and then repulsed by the lens mechanism sounds... and I feel that I should send my R4 to repair, everyday...

One of the things that cross my mind when the question about "what would you do if you get a jackpot" pops out is: I would buy every Ricoh camera that I could, from film to digital... and afterwards it may come some big Nikon...

Man, am I sick or what??
 
rui fernandes":2yrb7hj4 said:
Hehehe, I think you have nailed very well some of us here on this forum. At least I can identify myself with some of the sintomes...

I don't think there's anyone in the Ricoh ranks that has reached the same degree as the most die-hard Leica luminaries. I love Leica glass and camra bodies but some conversations I have sat in on beggar belief.

rui fernandes":2yrb7hj4 said:
I proudly assume to be the owner of a camera with that "what brand is that???". It's the same everyday I meet some people that see's me for the very first time with the Ricoh on my hands. Many students just think I must be crazy, because I show them my little strange camera everytime they try to "sell" me their big "canons"...

I often hear "They make cameras too? I thought they just did photocopiers" from the digital generation, but it's the slightly better informed that are most annoying. They've read a review and seen some high ISO crop and concluded that the Ricoh is lousy and over priced. They don't undstand that the Ricoh will almost always shoot at ISO 64 to 154. Or they say that a GRDIII lacks a zoom lens or image stabilisation. It shoots wide, doesn't need stabilisation and produces a certain look that you don't really get with most cameras. It operates a lot like a film camera and encourages an artist's eye. You take camera in hand and go looking for the right shot. I didn't get it either till I stumbled on a GRDIII going super cheap, bought it on a whim and then it dawned on me.
rui fernandes":2yrb7hj4 said:
People get atracted by the GX200 with the accessories, as well by the R3 and then repulsed by the lens mechanism sounds... and I feel that I should send my R4 to repair, everyday...

The GX100 is even noisier. It's a fabulous camera, the one that got me started with Ricoh digitals. I could never get any one interested in it. The servo sounded laboured, people thought the lens barrel was broken, they'd set it at 800 ISO and get a picture like a badly tuned TV or accidentally snap focus an extreme close up and get a totally misfocussed photo. I have had rather more converting people to the GRDIII, because it suits artists, former film shooters and people who believe in fast primes and can afford multiple cameras.

rui fernandes":2yrb7hj4 said:
One of the things that cross my mind when the question about "what would you do if you get a jackpot" pops out is: I would buy every Ricoh camera that I could, from film to digital... and afterwards it may come some big Nikon...

Man, am I sick or what??

We share the same sickness. Thankfully, unlike some brands, you don't have to hit the jackpot to slowly accumulate the complete Ricoh collection; they're mostly reasonably priced, with a few exceptions like the GR21 and M-Rikenons. By reasonably priced, I mean they still make sense on a value for money basis. For example, I picked up a GRD for $130 and it shoots comparable quality images to a modern camera of the same size. I got a R1 for $65 all in and that's been great fun too. Try picking up any Nikon camera kit that has earned titles like 'cult' or 'legendary' for this price range.

marc":2yrb7hj4 said:
I must be on the opposite pole of this syndrome. Started with a gx100, then bought a gx200 and then a grd1. It is too much for me. It is spectacular what gx200 can do, I would love to have a grd3 in hand..... but I miss the "simplicity" of the gx100 (even holding my breath for RAW files). I think I will sell gx200, get some money and time back and do more photos instead of wondering through menus. (grd1 stays).

GX100's are now less plentiful than GX200's but are still much cheaper. I wouldn't say that I find them a better camera than the new version, but it's definately comparable.

thelps":2yrb7hj4 said:
I have a GRD III and it goes on every Foto Safari with me, even if just accompanying a DP2, GF1 or others.
I still keep my GRD II and can't part with it, mainly because - "just in case the GRD III breaks" I have a spare Ricoh.
I have missed out on numerous GRD I's on eBay by a few bucks.
I regret missing out on the GR1 fad in the 1990s. I have a saved search in eBay for GRs and consider one every now and then.

I used to own a Leica MP & 50mm cron. Sold em, kept the Ricoh!

I think - My lips have gone numb :lol:

Did I pass or fail? :D :oops:

Pass or fail? You and Pavel... you're the Ricoh Forum Gods.
 
ZDP-189":25m7xoa1 said:
thelps":25m7xoa1 said:
I have a GRD III and it goes on every Foto Safari with me, even if just accompanying a DP2, GF1 or others.
I still keep my GRD II and can't part with it, mainly because - "just in case the GRD III breaks" I have a spare Ricoh.
I have missed out on numerous GRD I's on eBay by a few bucks.
I regret missing out on the GR1 fad in the 1990s. I have a saved search in eBay for GRs and consider one every now and then.

I used to own a Leica MP & 50mm cron. Sold em, kept the Ricoh!

I think - My lips have gone numb :lol:

Did I pass or fail? :D :oops:

Pass or fail? You and Pavel... you're the Ricoh Forum Gods.

ZDP you can put Pavel in forum God status but alas I feel not me :cry:
I think the images and techniques of many others exceed my skills --
Have a look at the work of Wiener (Andy), Rui, Orol, Bertalan, Wouter, Gerd and Martin Setvaks timescapes just to name a few - PS: sorry if I forget to mention the many others of you out there with excellent skills.

After all its about the image more than what you use, but Ricoh's make it a lot easier and more satisfying.
 
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