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Selling my Ricoh GRD for GXR?

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bacchus

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Hello experts.

I have one of the GRD more matte black cameras, that seem to be clear of that rear wheel problem (that is what Ricoh support said). I got this camera half a year ago from ricoh as exchange because they failed to solve the rear wheel problem with my original camera within my guarantee. It has only 2632 shutter counts and looks like new except the hot shoe where there is some minor wear because of the GV-1 that would come with it (+3 Batteries and two battery chargers and a Lexar Pro 2 GB that seems to have one of the fastest writing times with the GRD, see the GRD forum section).

Since nowadays I lean more to the normal focal widths I would either like to buy the GT-1 to use 40mm or switch to the GXR with first the S or P and after some money saving to the 50mm Aps-C. Since I am a student I can't afford keeping the GRD so I would need to get more or less 300 € for it to co-finance the GXR. Do you think this is possible? How are the bw-jpegs of the GXR. Can it be compared to the fantastic sensor/lens/processing combination that we all loved so much when it comes to the GRD. It seems that the GRD is still the best BW compact camera around. Would you keep it and buy the GT-1 instead and maybe take more time in saving for the GXR? Or maybe buying an used GX100 instead of the GT-1 which is still around 100 Euros new (not common at the bay theese days) plus 20 bucks for the GH-1.

What would you do?
Thanks in advance…
 
I am just a beignner, not an expert, here are some of my views on choosing the systems. :cool:

Personally, I am a person who will only choose compact size camera because I really carry my camera with me everyday. I need the camera for both fun and work, and take at least 1000 pictures every week. I used to have a GRD2, a Panasonic LX3 and have tried some DSLR, and started to use the GXR for about 6 months.

The answer to your questions would be simply: "what do you need your camera for :?: "

A year ago, I can say it with confidence that GRD is the best thing available at this price.

If you are just simply recording things, for the price and compact size, I would suggest you to keep the GRD. The B+W quality is awesome. And the GRD system has given me a lot of joy, especially it has really good control / UI in such a tiny and light-weighted body. But at times when you need to zoom in (for example, while traveling, or shooting someone / something from a distance), it is just not too helpful :mrgreen: .

I am not going to talk too much about the GX system, because frankly speaking, there are better options out there with that kind of money.

GXR is really what you need if you are looking for the flexibility and quality similar to a DSLR (e.g. change lens, add filters, high quality image for print out, etc.). I am quite sure the "experts" here will tell you that the quality of pictures from the A12 units are much better than the GRD with extension units.

But of course, the goodness of the GXR system comes with an expensive price tag, and the size and weight are much more than the GRD (at least it is impossible to slip it into jeans pocket).
 
Thank you for your reply.

I need a as compact package as possible + a fixed focal width of 40 or ideal 50 mm and a UI that doesn't make you think will using it. Shooting mostly street in b/w and color but preferably with a normal focal width.

1. I left the analog world behind several years ago.
2. M8 or M9 with Voigtländer Lens or used Leica is way too expensive. Maybe in a few years. Not that compact anymore but cameras are not made for pockets anyway.
3. Epson RD-1 could be fun but is running out of service.
4. Sigma DP 2 has too many quirks to deal with but would be in my pice range

5. Ricoh GRD with GT-1 would work for b/w but not so much for color and it would loose it's compact size. Nearly the size of the GXR with 50mm.
So I will sell my GRD and go for GXR with P10 or S10 and save up to the A12 modules. (Will post it in the sale section)

(Hello Ricoh: A GRD with 50mm fixed lens would be perfect for my needs! ;-))
 
HI, I am looking to sell my GRD 2 as well to fund a GXR but my situation if different as I have a GRD 3 as well.
 
I decent budget camera used is the Olympus E-P1 ... and also the Panasonic GF1... grab the 20mm Panasonic. I would use that over the S or P modules. If you can get the 50mm module, go for it.
 
I agree that GXR (even with 28mm module) is nowhere as pocketable and as easy to use single-handed as GRD. If you are not in a hurry, I would suggest you to wait for GRDIV (or whatever it would be called). I too think that GRD with fast 40/50mm lens would be huge success for Ricoh. People were not so excited about the GRD+GT1, most probably because of bulky size and ugly orange flare. But I'm sure people would love GRD with integrated 40mm lens. This would allow to design flare-free lens and maybe even faster than f1.9. And this all in pocketable design, most probably not larger than existing GRDIII.
 
Hi all,

Well if the new GRD4 can do 40mm I will ditch my GXR with 50mm. Ain't that odd!! I have a GX200 and it has the EVF. I end up using it at the 28mm setting mostly so......a GRD3 might be on the cards I thought but if a 4 is in the near future and it has the 40mm attachment then will go with that.

Of course Murphy's law will then say that Ricoh will announce a 40mm for the GXR!

Oh well.....

Oliver
 
Hi Bacchus,

How do you know that your more leaning towards normal focal lengths?
Do you have other cams that have 40mm or are you cropping most of your pictures?

Few camera's can beat the compactness of the GRD. The Canon S95 will, but at 40-50mm the aperture is not that great anymore. Fixed 40mm are not that compact as the GRD (micro 4/3 do 40mm with pancake, Sigma DP2 you already said it, Leica X1 too expensive, Fuji X100 looks interesting but not there yet not cheap either).

If you are on a very tight budget I would make very sure this is the right move. Maybe for some time tape off half of the GRD's screen (post-it or so, something that is friendly to the LCD. No I won't be liable for damaging your screen :mrgreen: ). 40mm is about half of 28mm. That leaves 4Mpix when you crop that in your image processing software and should be sufficient resolution for decent print sizes. At least than you are experimenting without waisting budget.

Remko
 
All different now. Since my GRD 1 had the ADL Wheel issue again (see my report in the GRD section) I will receive a GRD 2 from Ricoh in exchange. I guess I will try to find a cheap GT1 and GH1 and will explore the II.
 
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