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Select your preferred GXR lens mount

please select your preferred lens mount

  • Canon EF-S

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Contax G

    Votes: 4 5.1%

  • Leica M

    Votes: 32 40.5%

  • Nikon F (AF)

    Votes: 15 19.0%

  • Pentax K-AF

    Votes: 16 20.3%

  • Samsung NX

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Sigma SA

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • Sony α

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Sony E (NEX)

    Votes: 5 6.3%
  • Total voters
    79
I would be interested in Contax G Mount with AF, but think this will not happen. The best mount for Ricoh might be M-mount (My vote) . It’s open, no AF to implement, size fits well to the body and they produced some (2?) M-Mount lenses in the past.
If we dream a little bit: What do you think about the option to adapt to one of the unreleased mirrorless lens mounts of the big two?
 
What was Ricoh's logic in choosing the lens mount for it's film SLR way back when?

I think it went with slightly modified Pentax mount (but not one that was fully compatible with Pentax cameras).

Are they likely to do the same thing this time, with Pentax or someone else?
 
How's this for unfounded speculation: in 2011, Pentax announces it's own mirrorless camera, the first lens of which are a 1.8 50mm and a wide 28mm, with a roadmap to add 3 or 4 new lens every year... and Ricoh comes out with a new mount for these lens... :lol:
 
socket":27axz4z9 said:
How's this for unfounded speculation: in 2011, Pentax announces it's own mirrorless camera, the first lens of which are a 1.8 50mm and a wide 28mm, with a roadmap to add 3 or 4 new lens every year... and Ricoh comes out with a new mount for these lens... :lol:
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I like that one, I could be temped by such a camera if their lenses are pancake designs like their others!
 
Altough I only own Canon EF/EF-S lenses I've voted for the Pentax mount. Simply because this gives access to the widest range Pancake lenses. I wouldn't want to mount full sized lenses on such a compact camera, then I would simply take my Canon 500D instead.

So pancake's are the sweetspot for me. Also Pentax is standardized/specialized on APS-C.

Leica would mean manual focus and that's not for me, manual focus is just too cumbersome for day-to-day use to me. Also not a good combo with the EVF or the LCD screen.

Remko
 
I too think it would be great to have the lens mount module with AF support. But I'm afraid, existing Pentax K mount is not an option because of the flange focal distance, which is around 45mm. For a comparison, m4/3 flange focal distance is 20mm, Sony NEX is 18mm! It means that the advantage of cool Pentax pancakes would be wasted, because the module would have to be very thick.

I think the second reason why there will be no AF mount support is that the lens mount module with AF could cannibalize the sales of Ricoh lens modules. And because Japanese love Leica and legacy lenses, M mount is a very reasonable choice for Ricoh. I hate waiting... ;)
 
odklizec":listt4xa said:
...I'm afraid, existing Pentax K mount is not an option because of the flange focal distance, which is around 45mm. For a comparison, m4/3 flange focal distance is 20mm, Sony NEX is 18mm! It means that the advantage of cool Pentax pancakes would be wasted, because the module would have to be very thick.
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All the more reason for Ricoh to choose the K mount: it would give an automatic size advantage to Ricoh modules. You wouldn't have to compromise AF support in that case because GXR users by definition are size sensitive, reducing cannibalization.

What mount would fit Ricoh's own legacy lens?
 
Ricoh used to use the PK mount for its own slr lenses - a plus for voting for the PK mount. I recently gave away a nice little zoom I have had "forever" from my Ricoh XR2 slr. But I have bought a Ricoh 50mm f1.7 to use via an adapter on my Samsung NX10. However I am coming around to the opinion that if had the Leica M bayonet mount then we might get the best of all worlds as there would be many adapters -> Leica M and therefore by "stacking" an adapter on the Ricoh M mount you could have a number of different lenses sub-adaptered this way. The Leica M is probably the only common adapter that has a flange back distance that allows it to be adaptered to other lens mounts. For instance the M is 27.8mm and the Pentax K is 45.5 mm which should allow a connection in between. As a side benefit you could fit Leica M mount lenses directly to the Ricoh module.

Not an expert in adapter mounts (but fast becoming one) and there might be other problems. Also there is the mostly mental one of GXR back + aps-c sensor Leica M Bayonet Mount module + Leica M -> Pentax K adapter + Pentax K mount lens. Nice tight mechanical fit with various release catches aligned and your GXR can be the talk of the town.

As for fitting new lenses without an aperture ring - lets just wait for the nice ones Ricoh will release in good time (smile).
 
although i voted for contax g , , m mount makes the most sense, long term , i really hope the m mount module is realized , i have tons of interesting rangefinder glass that i use with my ep1 and gf1interchangable lens cameras
 
Best solution for a Leica M mount module on a GXR

Jut looking on ebay for a non-existent Leica M -> Samsung NX adapter (I did find a M39 -> NX though).

The point to notice was that there are "hordes" of Leica M -> Sony NEX and Leica M -> m4/3 adapters to be had. People are voting via their eBay accounts. Not that there are no other mount adapters to NEX and m4/3, as there are - the point being that there is a whole industry out there recycling old manual lenses and this must be soaking up the supply of easy to find cheap desirable lenses.

There are M mount lenses for sale but they seem inevitably new and expensive or old and expensive. So where are we going? Has the world suddenly turned its back on auto focus lenses - smart lenses that talk to the camera body and adjust aperture and shutter speed?

I think not. There was, and always will be, a small limited market for very good manual lenses. However they will always be at a premium price because of their small volume and exacting tolerances. People are buying legacy lenses simply because they are cheap and as new proprietary mounts are released there must be a shortage of variety for a while. Whilst they are waiting for a manufacturer to produce exciting modern lenses there are cheap, nearly as good as, lenses that can be pressed into service in the short term.

However some vendors with the better manual lenses for sale seem to have decided that these lenses are equivalent to modern lenses and the buying frenzy seems to be driving up the manual lens market price. Maybe we are about to see the legacy lens equivalent of the dot com boom and bust?

Meanwhile where does this leave the proposed Leica M adapter for the GXR? If it will take a second adapter to (say) pk mount then there will probably be still some average pk mount lenses about at a reasonable price, and many of us have some pk's somewhere in the attic. The more exotic pk's about and virtually all Leica M's are pot luck prices and not so sure there are any bargains about already. You can always buy a new Voigtlander lens at their regular price. This might be the way to go with the GXR adapter, seems a pity to fit up such a fine camera back with a double adapter to pk mount then a cooking model pk 50mm f1.7 for US$100 (or a rather large tired old f4.0 zoom for much the same). Might as well get the A12 50mm and be done with it. On the other hand a schmick new manual Voigtlander on the GXR might cost as much as a complete GXR module but you might just have a very nice combo to go with the Ferrari and the Raybans (smile) - Leica watch out, there just might be a new trendy on the block.

As for my cheap and cheerful Samsung NX10 with the GRD (original) aura - it doesn't care much what lens I fit it up with as it is just a fun knockabout camera that works surprisingly well. I had thought that maybe if I could get a Leica M -> nx adapter for it then I might start sourcing some "cheap" (ha ha - it's a joke) Leica M mount lenses for my Ricoh GXR M mount module in anticipation. If it did not eventuate then I could always continue to use these lenses on the NX10. If it did come about then I would have secured some lenses before the rush took them out. Mmmm too late, the NEX and m4/3 crowds seem to be already on the job.

No adapter for the nx at present and the market for those lenses seems hot enough already. Best wait for the M mount module and consider a new manual lens. Seems the best solution. No rush.

Meanwhile I had a few pk mount lenses from my old Ricoh XR2 slr days many moons ago and bought a few more just for the heck of it. I can have a bit of fun with these on my NX10 whilst I am waiting. If I can double adapter them on to my GXR it might be worth a laugh but my heart says buy some Raybans and a fast new Voigtlander lens for the GXR M Module, the Ferrari will have to wait.
 
This is my very first comment on this forum place. Hallo everybody! Regarding the discussed matter:
In my personal opinion a module with m43 makes no real sense for Ricoh. They have to adopt a special AF-system into that module that probably is different to their own constructions. And: why should Ricoh opens a way for lens-competitors to their camera-system ? Ricoh wants to sell its own lenses/modules.
The only mount adaption that seems to be reasonable in my eyes is the Leica M Mount, since M-lenses are not really in competition to the GXR Lenses and Modules. No AF sytem is needed to be designed and owners of M-Mount-lenses are very happy to get a chance to use them on a digital camera with an acceptable crop factor of 1,5 ( and not factor 2 as in consequence of use with m43-cameras). That is a good possibility to use M-Mount-lenses without the need to buy an expensive Leica M 8 or M 9. But to be honest: for me it seems quite challenging to design such module for M-Mount, knowing about the great efforts (and problems) that Leica needed (have had) in the past to develop a sensor for the M 8 and later for the FF sensor in M 9. Probably the final price for such a Module will be too high and a lot of interested customers will be put off by that.
P.S: On the Photokina in Cologne I had a chance to discuss that matter with a Ricoh-Guy; he indicated that it could be the M-Mount at the end, but as well pointed out that this is not the final decision.
 
I have come across more Ricoh fans who are also Minolta/ Sony camera owners. My impression is that Ricoh owners are more creative people who dare to try new ideas. Or is this my prejudice? I chose A-mount.

As for the M mount idea, the GXR + APS-C module + Leica lens = $$$? :shock:

Time to save up money? :D
 
I choose A-mount and E-mount. I have a lot of Sony Minolta lenses that I would like to use with a camera like the GXR. I had a look to the Nex cameras and today they are very simple for and advanced user, something that the Ricoh GXR is well known for its well designed ergonomy
 
Answer to Nevin`s comment: "As for the M mount idea, the GXR + APS-C module + Leica lens = $$$? "

Yes, it seems to be expensive, but you do not need Leica lens. Try Voigtländer lens (produced by Cosina), that are fair in price and with really excellent quality.
 
It looks as if this poll has become a little bit obsolete now. On Saturday, Oct 23, 2010, blogspot, a French site that has been cited here with respect to the 28mm module and new firmware, announced:
Concernant le module à monture prévu pour 2011, Ricoh aurait finalement fait le choix de la monture micro 4:3 afin de maintenir la compacité du système.
This seems to indicate (regarding my bad French...) that Ricoh has settled on a 4/3 mount - at least for the beginning...
Announcement: http://ricoh-28mm.blogspot.com/2010/10/ ... nture.html
Home page: http://ricoh-28mm.blogspot.com/
Best regards, Gerd
PS: Some people will be happy now, others not so much - and I have no opinion yet...
PS2: Sorry for the double post, but I thought some people look only here...
 
Canon EF-S - register and barrel huge but why not just buy a 550D? Heck, a 400D?
Contax G - excellent glass but one or two per focal length so pointless.
Leica M - lots of M42 around but only M39 adapters
Nikon F - doesn't lend itself well to adapters. Plenty of Nikons APS-C bodies available in the bargain bin/skip.
Pentax K - Were the Ricoh SLRs any good?.
Samsung NX - enough said; next!
Sigma SA - PK with EF register and protocol? Not many around. Not enough suckers. I have one. Sucker!
Sony α - How about MD? Same thing, better glass.
Sony E - OMG kill it before it breeds

You missed O/M, Pen F, C-mount (beat Kenco to the launch), Tamron, FD.

No, all of the above please, at least all the decbt ones. It's called Micro Four Thirds. If Cosina can join M4/3, why not Ricoh? Jonie, if Ricoh joins m4/3, they'll be provided will all the necessary info and support to make it work. Not so with the other mounts.

AF support? No thanks. Too restrictive. Unless it's MFT then it's a welcome bonus. No reason for Ricoh to attempt to reverse-engineeer someone else's protocol.

Waloszek, I hope you're right. Didn't someone today write that the Danish dealer said it would be M42?

If it's APS-C or double frame (35mm full frame) then M42 is the only logical choice, but M4/3 would be more exciting. Didn't I see a mock-up of a 645 didital back on a Hasselblad? If they did that well, I'm sure the pros would be interested, but it doesn't make much commercial sense for Ricoh.

I'd buy a cheap second hand GXR body just to get ready for either M42 or m4/3. I'd buy either or both.
 
my last experience,after 40 years of photograhy,the Ricoh GXR mount it's really wonderfull,quick,secure,waterproof,dustproof,usable is darkness
wen necessary,non conventionnal,that right,but perfect....
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