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Opinion piece

TMP

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New guy here (http://ricohforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=5561).

I recently wrote a little opinion piece (see below) -- C&C are most welcome.


Being a reportage, street and travel photographer, when I look at what is available in terms of digital cameras for such uses, there always seems to be something missing. Yet, I am merely asking for a camera which: 1. produces images of good quality, 2. has precise metering and autofocus, 3. has good ergonomics, 4. is reactive, 5. is compact and well-built, 6. has (or has the option of having) a good viewfinder and 7. has an all-round lens.


These are seven points camera-makers seem incapable of combining into one single compact camera or system. And yet… in terms of image quality, today’s APS CMOS sensors can produce very good images from ISO 50 to 3200 (e.g. the Leica X1 and Ricoh GXR A12 modules). Precise metering and autofocus, good ergonomics, reactivity and compact as well as rugged design are all feasible (e.g. the Ricoh GR D III and GXR). As to the viewfinder, cameras can easily be built in order to let the photographer choose its viewfinder, whether electronic or optic (e.g. the Ricoh GXR).


What, then, about the lens? The best all-round choice is, for me, a 35 or 40mm lens. Ricoh, who so far fulfilled six of the seven points with its GXR system, decided to offer the two most restraining prime lenses available with its 28 and 50mm f2.5 lenses attached to their own sensors (for better or worse). Why not a 35 or 40mm lens?


Ricoh knows that photographers will probably buy both 28 and 50mm modules in order to “gain” the versatility a 35 or 40mm lens would have provided them with. They might even buy the rumoured M-mount module. On an APS CMOS sensor, they will be able to get a 36, 37.5 or 42mm manual focus lens out of a 24, 25 or 28mm lens, but at what price?
Leica understood the benefits of such a focal length on a fixed-lens camera, yet its X1 presents unacceptable imperfections for its price. Sigma did as well with its DP2s and its 41mm f2.8 lens. Unfortunately, because of its peculiar sensor, it is either love or hate, not to mention its rather hesitant autofocus. Finally, despite its smaller sensor and bigger overall size, the Olympus E-P2 with the Panasonic 40mm f1.7 begs for attention.


For the moment, I’ll stick with my Ricoh GR D III while looking at the GXR system, wondering how many of us would have wanted a 35 or 40mm f2.5 A12 module. Petition anyone? ♦


You will also find this opinion piece on my website, The Monthly Page (http://themonthlypage.wordpress.com/). Feel free to check it out and, again, C&C are most welcome =0)
 
Welcome,

For me as a landscape photographer I prefer the 28mm lens above anything else (except something wider).

The difference between 40 or 50mm is too small to be significant for me. From 28mm to 35mm could be a simple standard crop in post processing 12M pixels with APS-C can sustain some cropping (ok I know this isn't completely the same).

Regards Remko
 
Thank you Remko.

It often is a question of personal preference, type of photography and shooting style. For me, the difference between 35/40mm and 50mm is significant. I use to think that a 35mm or 40mm was very close to a 50mm focal length -- until I directly compared them.

While the same camera with the two different focal lengths still is the best way to compare them, the image below is a good representation as far as I am concerned.

All the best,
TMP

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TMP,
I carried an OM4 with a Zuiko 40mm f2 for quite some years. It was teamed with a 100mm and 21mm but the 40mm probably got the most use. One thing I miss from that rig is the hyperfocal markings on the lens, there, ready for me to check at a glance with every exposure. I often tweaked aperture and hyperfocal to get the image I wanted. Move to digital and I am a little lost at times. Relying on focus lock and a bit of judgement to make some exposures. I am a big fan of 40mm, it works well even when I get a little sloppy, 50mm does not tolerate that as much, I had a stint with a Leica M and Summicron 50mm and I just could not make it work for me that well, so I moved on. The DP2's 40mm is awsome, the lens is contributing to its fine IQ I am sure. There is nothing wrong with 50mm, but its a bit more of a short tele lens for me than a standard, at least thats the way I see it. In many ways I think the 50mm can be a good head and shoulders portrait lens than say the 85mm.

The question of 40mm is also tempered with sensor size, as the sensor gets bigger the DOF reduces. I have a GF1 with the 40mm and at f2 close up the DOF is pretty slim. A GRD IV with a GRD size sensor, should work well, I think I'd be buying one!
 
The DP2's 40mm is awsome, the lens is contributing to its fine IQ I am sure

I´ve been waiting for a 40mm lens with a bigger sensor since I´ve bought my GRD2+40mm lens adaptor. Then, unless Ricoh releases a NEW GRDIV with a 40mm fixed focal lens + APSC sensor (not probably), I will stick with my new Sigma DP2s. The IQ is the best in it class between any compact camera (maybe challenging many D-SLR out there), and the GUI it´s poor, but when you get some practice, it´s like loading film... Pacience, thinking, and press the shutter all the way down.
 
CHICHORNIO":2agy3c4z said:
I´ve been waiting for a 40mm lens with a bigger sensor since I´ve bought my GRD2+40mm lens adaptor. Then, unless Ricoh releases a NEW GRDIV with a 40mm fixed focal lens + APSC sensor (not probably), I will stick with my new Sigma DP2s. The IQ is the best in it class between any compact camera (maybe challenging many D-SLR out there), and the GUI it´s poor, but when you get some practice, it´s like loading film... Pacience, thinking, and press the shutter all the way down.

I'd describe the GUI on the DP2 as "quirky". Its not what you are used to seeing as on other Digicams and DSLRs, but now that I am used to it, I find it surprisingly fast and effective. The QS button on the DP2 is what I reach for mostly. Sure there may be better systems but the DP2 GUI is ok IMO and it does not slow me down at all.
 
thelps":390til8u said:
CHICHORNIO":390til8u said:
I've been waiting for a 40mm lens with a bigger sensor since I've bought my GRD2+40mm lens adapter. Then, unless Ricoh releases a NEW GRDIV with a 40mm fixed focal lens + APSC sensor (not probably), I will stick with my new Sigma DP2s. The IQ is the best in it class between any compact camera (maybe challenging many D-SLR out there), and the GUI is poor, but when you get some practice, it´s like loading film... Patience, thinking, and press the shutter all the way down.

I'd describe the GUI on the DP2 as "quirky". Its not what you are used to seeing as on other Digicams and DSLRs, but now that I am used to it, I find it surprisingly fast and effective. The QS button on the DP2 is what I reach for mostly. Sure there may be better systems but the DP2 GUI is ok IMO and it does not slow me down at all.

I am still in-between the Ricoh GXR with the 33/50mm module and the Sigma DP2s. The Sigma has two of the most important features for me: the 41mm lens and the APS CMOS sensor. On the other hand, when you are used to the Ricoh GR D III / GXR ergonomics, reactivity and build, it is difficult to get something else. On top of this, I really like the idea behind the GXR system.

One question remains for me regarding the DP2s: how's the metering and autofocus for you guys? -- And, especially, compared to the GR D III and GXR?
 
I personally won't be buying an M mount adapter because I don't have the money for those kind of lenses, would I love to use one? Sure. I'll just stick with their own modules for now.
 
macsareback, check this post:
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=5545

You will realize that there are very affordable M mount lenses with very good price/quality ratio. If the GXR M mount module become a reality, I have no doubt many GXR users will jump for these nice Voigtlanders.
 
Patience... something in the 35mm range will come. 50mm is still the standard and 28mm is Ricoh's favorite length. They had to make those before the 35mm version.
 
TMP":1tmcya4f said:
One question remains for me regarding the DP2s: how's the metering and autofocus for you guys? -- And, especially, compared to the GR D III and GXR?

Metering from my experience is no better or worse than most digicams, its usually ok, having exposure compensation I can tweak. AF is as many have mentioned slow. I also find its often not on the mark or the target rectangle is not accurate. I hear many DP2 users are reverting to MF but this is quite hit/miss also for me as the LCD does not have the detail. A great sensor and lens flawed by the rest of the camera.

The GRD will get images the DP2 just can't.
 
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