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Tell your friends about us!Fuji x100 or Ricoh GXR A12 28mm
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Duane Pandorf
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Here's another option that would drive me to choose the GXR platform is the newly announced M mount module. Granted, you may not have an M mount lens now but that added flexibility/option would eliminate the need to have different camera bodies to lug around and remember the different button layout/functions.
Here's another link to review:
http://ricoh-gr-diary.blogspot.com/2011 ... sions.html
Here's another link to review:
http://ricoh-gr-diary.blogspot.com/2011 ... sions.html
Duane Pandorf
Member
I too am considering the GXR M mount option. But I don't have any lenses. I'm considering selling my Nikon D200 kit (including) lenses to fund the GXR.
I've been reading and researching too. You may find this website interesting too if the M mount interests you:
http://cameraquest.com/index.htm
I've been reading and researching too. You may find this website interesting too if the M mount interests you:
http://cameraquest.com/index.htm
dorfinator":9wuuwpa5 said:
I read on this page is something I find interesting: manual focus, on the other hand, I really hated, unless I was zone focusing, in which case it has the best system on the market.
If I understand right, I can apply zone focusing with the A12 on MF. Can anybody tell me how that works (on a A12)?
odklizec
PK
From how I understand it, the zone focusing should work just fine as with any other M-based system. The only problem is, that the DoF marks on the lenses will not quite match the actual DoF because of 1.5 crop factor. In other words, the actual DoF is not the same as suggested by the lens DoF scale, because it was calculated for 35mm film. Here is a very usable topic on that subject:
http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-for ... S?start=11
http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-for ... S?start=11
I picked up an X100 yesterday and early impressions are excellent. The image quality is nothing short of fantastic, and even shooting at ISO 6400 last night the images are very, very good.
Its absolutely beautiful too and seems to be built very well, though it comes at a price. I paid £1040 with the lens adapter, hood and leather case.
The guy in the shop advised me that a few local wedding photographers are now using it which should give you a good indication of the quality of the images it produces.
http://www.kevinmullinsphotography.co.uk/for-photographers/fuji-x100-wedding-photography.html
http://www.neilluxfordphotography.com/blog/equipment/fuji-x100-wedding-photography
I wanted a camera with a large sensor, but small enough to carry everywhere, well, in the case it should be ok. I'm also a Leica fan but can't afford one...well, the M series anyway and this has the same style. The viewfinder is brilliant too, displaying all the info you need.
I'm taking it up a mountain later today for some shots so will post some if anyones interested.
Its absolutely beautiful too and seems to be built very well, though it comes at a price. I paid £1040 with the lens adapter, hood and leather case.
The guy in the shop advised me that a few local wedding photographers are now using it which should give you a good indication of the quality of the images it produces.
http://www.kevinmullinsphotography.co.uk/for-photographers/fuji-x100-wedding-photography.html
http://www.neilluxfordphotography.com/blog/equipment/fuji-x100-wedding-photography
I wanted a camera with a large sensor, but small enough to carry everywhere, well, in the case it should be ok. I'm also a Leica fan but can't afford one...well, the M series anyway and this has the same style. The viewfinder is brilliant too, displaying all the info you need.
I'm taking it up a mountain later today for some shots so will post some if anyones interested.
andrewteee
New Member
ZDP-189":3ajcd7dk said:
I agree with that. The dynamic range is wonderful. But I also love the ability to flip the OVF/EVF in a flash. The X100 is an amazing camera.
thelps
Active Member
Genster, I have both GRDIII and DP2 and while yes the DP2 under well lit circumstances will yield a better image, there are times the GRD III will do the job where the DP2 fails. Inside in mediocre light the GRD will produce a usable image, acceptable to me. I see it as a companion camera to the DP2 rather than inferior. As to GXR or X100 I too am struggling with the option. I do own a Panasonic GF1 with 20mm and while its not a tiny package its not bad to tote around. The GF2 was ingnored by the photo public I think mainly because it lacked the PASM wheel, going for touch screen instead, but size wise it seems like an ideal device to me. At the moment they are ridiculously cheap on ebay bu the lenses are not as cheap.
Me - I am leaning toward the X100 for the same reason ZDP mentioned. I GXR body and M adapter is in my sights but I have another use for that camera.
Me - I am leaning toward the X100 for the same reason ZDP mentioned. I GXR body and M adapter is in my sights but I have another use for that camera.
Hi guys, i hope somebody could help me, i'm going mad! I can't decide which camera to buy.
It all began two weeks ago, when i had my GRD IV. I was looking for a very small compact camera to carry around everytime, you know, the dslr too big for taking with you everyday etc etc. So i went on the Grd 4
I am so impressed by this little gem that i decided to sell it...
no really, i never used ricoh and i am so impressed by the build quality, perfect usability, and IQ for such a small sensor. So i thought that it would have been a dream to have a similar camera but with an aps sensor like the sony nex. And then i saw that the Gxr is THAT camera! And i was ready to spend some more, before stumbling upon this thread...!!
And then in a shop i took the Samsung nx200 in my hand, and it's perfect for me! I never thought about samsung before but after hours on the web, i see it looks like it's highly underrated.
So, now the contenders are
- GRX.
I love almost everything of the grd 4. The only thing i can complain is that i'd like it to be faster to be ready after every shot in raw mode.
Plus, the design of the GXR to my eyes wins hands down and the 'MY' mode is GENIUS!
- NX200.
With 20mm pancake is tiny as the grd when it's on. in my hands, for the way i hold it, it's even more comfortable than the ricoh, and i was impressed by the quality of the images i'm seeing on the web. I think it looks very underrated. i see also that samsung have some nice lenses, it's the only one with image stabilization, and the smallest of the three. But someone says it's very slow to write raws. does someone know something about that?
-FUJI X100.
The image quality, from what i can see on the web, is superb. It looks like a very fun camera to use with pro quality results.
But i couldn't find anywhere here, so i don't know the size of it. looks like the biggest of the three, but how big? It has to be 'jacket pocketable'. Today i'm going to look for some other shops hoping to see it.
Its plus to me are the viewfinder and the auto iso mode.
At the moment, waiting for some help :lol: , my thought is:
40% Samsung
35% Ricoh
25% Fuji
It all began two weeks ago, when i had my GRD IV. I was looking for a very small compact camera to carry around everytime, you know, the dslr too big for taking with you everyday etc etc. So i went on the Grd 4
I am so impressed by this little gem that i decided to sell it...
no really, i never used ricoh and i am so impressed by the build quality, perfect usability, and IQ for such a small sensor. So i thought that it would have been a dream to have a similar camera but with an aps sensor like the sony nex. And then i saw that the Gxr is THAT camera! And i was ready to spend some more, before stumbling upon this thread...!!And then in a shop i took the Samsung nx200 in my hand, and it's perfect for me! I never thought about samsung before but after hours on the web, i see it looks like it's highly underrated.
So, now the contenders are
- GRX.
I love almost everything of the grd 4. The only thing i can complain is that i'd like it to be faster to be ready after every shot in raw mode.
Plus, the design of the GXR to my eyes wins hands down and the 'MY' mode is GENIUS!
- NX200.
With 20mm pancake is tiny as the grd when it's on. in my hands, for the way i hold it, it's even more comfortable than the ricoh, and i was impressed by the quality of the images i'm seeing on the web. I think it looks very underrated. i see also that samsung have some nice lenses, it's the only one with image stabilization, and the smallest of the three. But someone says it's very slow to write raws. does someone know something about that?
-FUJI X100.
The image quality, from what i can see on the web, is superb. It looks like a very fun camera to use with pro quality results.
But i couldn't find anywhere here, so i don't know the size of it. looks like the biggest of the three, but how big? It has to be 'jacket pocketable'. Today i'm going to look for some other shops hoping to see it.
Its plus to me are the viewfinder and the auto iso mode.
At the moment, waiting for some help :lol: , my thought is:
40% Samsung
35% Ricoh
25% Fuji
AlbertTRAL
Member
Have a look here: camera size
It may help, although the GXR is not listed... :roll:
It may help, although the GXR is not listed... :roll:
I am (was?) looking at the Fuji camera's too. I currently have a GXR and GRDIV.
I will be keeping the GRD for sure (until perhaps the new GRDV shows up), and was thinking about selling my GXR.
Indeed the images of the Fuji sensor look GREAT. However what kept me from it so far are the problems with importing RAW files. They have to be processed though Fuji's own software before you can add them to Aperture, PS and so on, or the results will not be that great. This is a HUGE flaw as I'm concerned, as I shoot a lot of RAW images.
Of course the x100 is also a fixed lens, and the GXR is a modular system. Also, the lens lineup of the GXR is pretty much endless when you have the M Mount module (and don't mind manual focussing). Of course Fuji has the X-E1 and the X-PRO1 which take M mount adapter, but they DO NOT produce images like the GXR M Mount does. That's because the M Mount sensor was specifically designed for those lenses, and the Fuji obviously for... Fujinon lenses
Another thing that kept me from a Fuji camera is that in their current lens lineup, they do not have lenses which have aperture and in-focus area on the lens barrel. With the GXR M Mount I can add every M mount lens, like Voigtlanders, which pretty much all have this. This way I can shoot from my hip, check the area in focus and just blast away...
... As I am typing this I realize I start to send like a Ricoh fanboy or something, which I am absolutely not! I am not bound to any brand! The Fuji camera's seriously have me doubting to purchase one, but like I said, I just keep on finding things that my GXR does just as good, or even better! And I think people sometimes complain out the focus of the X100...
So yes, jpeg image quality seems to be better with the Fuji's (although not when you shoot M Mount lenses), but the RAW problems and current lens lineup have kept me from switching.
I agree, it's a tough choice!
ps: correct me if there is any wrong information in here!!
I will be keeping the GRD for sure (until perhaps the new GRDV shows up), and was thinking about selling my GXR.
Indeed the images of the Fuji sensor look GREAT. However what kept me from it so far are the problems with importing RAW files. They have to be processed though Fuji's own software before you can add them to Aperture, PS and so on, or the results will not be that great. This is a HUGE flaw as I'm concerned, as I shoot a lot of RAW images.
Of course the x100 is also a fixed lens, and the GXR is a modular system. Also, the lens lineup of the GXR is pretty much endless when you have the M Mount module (and don't mind manual focussing). Of course Fuji has the X-E1 and the X-PRO1 which take M mount adapter, but they DO NOT produce images like the GXR M Mount does. That's because the M Mount sensor was specifically designed for those lenses, and the Fuji obviously for... Fujinon lenses
Another thing that kept me from a Fuji camera is that in their current lens lineup, they do not have lenses which have aperture and in-focus area on the lens barrel. With the GXR M Mount I can add every M mount lens, like Voigtlanders, which pretty much all have this. This way I can shoot from my hip, check the area in focus and just blast away...
... As I am typing this I realize I start to send like a Ricoh fanboy or something, which I am absolutely not! I am not bound to any brand! The Fuji camera's seriously have me doubting to purchase one, but like I said, I just keep on finding things that my GXR does just as good, or even better! And I think people sometimes complain out the focus of the X100...
So yes, jpeg image quality seems to be better with the Fuji's (although not when you shoot M Mount lenses), but the RAW problems and current lens lineup have kept me from switching.
I agree, it's a tough choice!
ps: correct me if there is any wrong information in here!!