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Tell your friends about us!Should I upgrade to a GXR
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joelypolly
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I would get the GXR P10 kit now and pickup the 28mm lens when it gets released. The 50mm A12 has simply amazing quality and I feel that the 28mm will most likely be the same if not better.
andrewteee
New Member
IMO the GXR and GRD3 complement each other. I have and use both. The GRD3 is so compact and easy and fun to use. The GXR/A12 is a phenomenal camera, but not as compact. I did not like the S10. The P10 is arriving tomorrow. I simply cannot wait for the 28mm A12!!!
odklizec
PK
Agree with andrewteee! GXR and GRDIII nicely complement each other. GRDIII is much smaller, GXR is more universal. I think the P10 kit is very reasonably priced and makes the whole combo an ideal kit to start with GXR. I'm sure the upcoming (September this year) A12 28mm module will be fantastic as always, but I'm sure there will still be usage for GRD.
After speaking with a Uk dealer today I was told the GXR with P10 kit will be for sale by the end of the week for £500, cheaper than I thought and it would make a good allrounder. I like the GXR system but how much will the 28mm cost when it comes out, the 50mm is £650, expansion could get exspensive. My good lady is of the oppinion I should get both a GRD and a GXR.
andrewteee
New Member
Pavel, Are you sure/confident in that September release date for the 28mm A12?
odklizec
PK
Sorry Andrew, I somehow missed your post.andrewteee":1cmwro8k said:
I read somewhere about the earlier than planned winter release date. And if I remember it correctly, there was mentioned September. Unfortunately, I can't find the original article. But it sounds very credible. Releasing new module (or modules) around the Photokina time is a very reasonable step Ricoh can do. I'm aware that Ricoh is usually not announcing new cameras outside the Japan. But they can always announce it from Tokio and then display the module (or modules) at Photokina? We will soon see
odklizec
PK
Tim, I really understand your attitude towards GRD? In my opinion, GRD is irreplaceable with GXR. Neither now nor in the future. The thing is that GXR is and will always be bigger. And even if Ricoh will decide to make a GRD-like GXR module, it will still be bigger than GRD. The difference in size may appear minor, but I think that the size sometimes (often) matter
I also think that GRDIII is much easier to use single handed. And I don't know like others, but I really dislike the GXR power switch. I think this was one of the very few design mistakes Ricoh ever did (the worst one was probably replacing the rear scroll button with lever).
I also think that GRDIII is much easier to use single handed. And I don't know like others, but I really dislike the GXR power switch. I think this was one of the very few design mistakes Ricoh ever did (the worst one was probably replacing the rear scroll button with lever).
I think the GRD is probably irreplaceable by the GXR, less can often be more. My last 10 days has been interesting reading GXR reviews and I do like the GXR system and it would be very versatile with the P10 but I still belive I would get much more use out of a GRD because of its size and also because of my novice level.
Hello. This is my first post on the Ricoh forum. I recently purchased the GXR P10 and am very happy. I have been following this forum for about a month as I researched cameras and the Ricoh user community was a big factor in my decision. I was looking for a camera with flexibility. That camera had to be small enough to easily carry around. The GXR P10 is. It easily fits in cargo pockets. The build quality and flexible user interface are amazing on the GXR. To me, that makes the modular system a perfect, future flexible platform. The P10 module does a fine job considering its sensor. I too look forward to a module similar to the GR3. I almost bought the GR3 for it's image quality and size, but trusting that Ricoh would come out with a similar module for the GXR, I went with the GXR and am glad I did.
odklizec
PK
Hi TapeSonic and welcome here! Nice to hear that this little community helped you with your decision! I look forward to try the P10 because it appears to be very interesting GXR module, despite its tiny sensor. I was very skeptic about it, but I now see its potential, especially in RAW mode.
I personally think that Ricoh is not going to make the GRD-like module. The main part of GRD magic is its unobtrusive size and design. GXR is nicely designed camera, but I think it's not as discreet as GRD. But I may change my opinion after trying P10? What I see the main advantage of P10 is its speed (AF and continuous mode). I wish Sony would finally make the CX/P10-like CMOS but the same size as used in GRD. This would allow Ricoh to make a really wonderful GRD! Speedy like a hell and with very good image quality. But I guess it's only a question of time, because the CCD used in GRDIII is already outdated (no HD video and unimpressive speed of continuous mode). So I'm sure Sony is already working on something better for future cameras.
BTW, don't forget to post some photos from your fresh new P10!
I personally think that Ricoh is not going to make the GRD-like module. The main part of GRD magic is its unobtrusive size and design. GXR is nicely designed camera, but I think it's not as discreet as GRD. But I may change my opinion after trying P10?
What I see the main advantage of P10 is its speed (AF and continuous mode). I wish Sony would finally make the CX/P10-like CMOS but the same size as used in GRD. This would allow Ricoh to make a really wonderful GRD! Speedy like a hell and with very good image quality. But I guess it's only a question of time, because the CCD used in GRDIII is already outdated (no HD video and unimpressive speed of continuous mode). So I'm sure Sony is already working on something better for future cameras. BTW, don't forget to post some photos from your fresh new P10!
The P10 is still unavailable in the UK so I have not had the pleasure of seeing or holding one. Hopefully they will arrive at a shop in the comming week. I really would like a small camera to take with me when out on my mountain bike which is when I'm clossest to nature, that is when a zoom would be helpfull as you can never creep up close enough to animals with a GRD. This is where I thought of using a GXR but Im not convinced if the GXR is easily to take with yourself on a mountain bike, whereas the GRD is easily small enough to take anywhere no zoom is no good for capturing animals but pefect for landscapes. In years gone by I have bought SLR cameras but they have allways been left at home so I don't want to invest in a camera that sits on a shelf at home. I am really strugling with my decision of buying a GXR or GRD and what I would phtograph most.
andrewteee
New Member
I don't have any pictures to share yet, but so far I'm happy with the P10. It is what it is - a small sensor camera. After so long with fixed focal length cameras (mostly wide angles) it is nice to have the flexibility of a "super zoom." Great for casual pictures and family snaps. The P10 is not an A12 or even the GRD3. It is not digital "perfection." It reminds me more of my iPhone photos, in a good way, with a sort of pleasing painterly quality to the images. Sharp enough, with good color and saturation. I have not played around with the settings much yet. JPGs seem perfectly adequate.
Interestingly, I have also picked up my Sigma DPx cameras and not used the GXR/A12 in a while. So I've been carrying the GXR/P10, Sigma DP2 and Sigma DP1s. Though frustrating cameras, there is something very unique and appealing about the Foveon sensor.
Interestingly, I have also picked up my Sigma DPx cameras and not used the GXR/A12 in a while. So I've been carrying the GXR/P10, Sigma DP2 and Sigma DP1s. Though frustrating cameras, there is something very unique and appealing about the Foveon sensor.